On today’s episode, I’m joined by Kristen Boehmer, of Living Loving Paleo, who shares about her journey in overcoming Crohn’s Disease with diet and mindset.
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Episode 90 Links
- Kristen’s blog (Living Loving Paleo): https://livinglovingpaleo.com/
- Kristen’s ‘Invincible Inspiration’ Program: https://livinglovingpaleo.com/join-now-invincible-inspiration/
- Kristen’s ‘Get Sauced’ eBook: https://livinglovingpaleo.com/my-ebook/
- Find Kristen on Instagram HERE.
- Find Kristen on Facebook HERE.
Episode 90 Transcription
On todayโs episode; Kristen Boehmer of Living Loving Paleo joins me to talk about her journey with Crohnโs disease; and how she took back her life with diet and mindset.
Cassy Joy: Welcome back to another episode of the Fed and Fit podcast. Today Iโm joined by one of the most lovely young women Iโve had the pleasure of knowing professionally; we got to hang out a little bit this past summer. She really is incredibly genuine. Sheโs this light, bubbly, positive person, and Iโm so excited to introduce Kristen Boehmer to you guys today. Sheโs the founder and creator of Living Loving Paleo; and from her own experience, is a true believer that food can be a powerful medicine. She was diagnosed with Crohnโs disease at the age of 12, and then after spending far too many years in and out of the hospitals, and ultimately having her entire large intestine removed in 2011, she took back control of her own life by completely changing her diet and mindset. Her biggest mission is to share her story and knowledge with the world, as so many are needlessly suffering just like she once was. Kristen is here to show you how she believes that creating a positive mindset in eating real food has the ability to change your entire life. Welcome to the show, Kristen!
Kristen Boehmer: That was the sweetest introduction ever; thank you Cassy!
Cassy Joy: {laughs}
Kristen Boehmer: I feel the same about you.
Cassy Joy: Oh, youโre too kind.
Kristen Boehmer: I mean it.
Cassy Joy: I mean, really, I guess; weโve kind of just touched back and forth online and social media for years. And Iโve admired the content youโve put out there, and you really are truly positive and your genuine spirit comes across in all of your posts, so Iโve always been a fan.
Kristen Boehmer: Thank you.
Cassy Joy: And then I got to meet you, and your awesome husband.
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs} That was so fun.
Cassy Joy: It was so fun! This past summer we were in San Francisco for a book tour stop, and we got to spend some time together. I really did walk away knowing that Iโd found a real friend, and a real; I donโt know, connection with another person from the internet. Iโm just so excited. And Iโm excited to introduce you to the Fed and Fit people. {laughs}
Kristen Boehmer: Aww, thank you! I feel the exact same about you. When I came across you years ago, it was your positivity that just shined through your posts, and I was just instantly drawn to you. So thanks for being you.
Cassy Joy: Oh my gosh; letโs just high five! {laughs}
Kristen Boehmer: I know! {laughs}
Cassy Joy: Across a couple of time zones. Well, you really do have a truly incredible blog. All of your work; Iโve always been impressed by it. Whatโs the one piece of your job now that you enjoy most? Whatโs the one thing you really enjoy most about Living Loving Paleo?
Kristen Boehmer: Ooh. Man. Thereโs so much.
Cassy Joy: I really love blindsiding you.
Kristen Boehmer: What was that?
Cassy Joy: Iโm blindsiding you with questions.
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs} I know, huh? I love it though. I love fly by the seat of your pants.
Cassy Joy: Good.
Kristen Boehmer: So I really love being creative. I actually used to be a fashion designer professionally, and I love now recipe creation. Thatโs one of my favorites. But honestly, what I love the absolutely most; and itโs my biggest passion, is showing people that they can take back control over their own lives. And they donโt have to rely on outside sources, and that there is another way to healing, because I found it myself after so many years of being a total conventional mindset; my world was kind of flipped upside down. So I love, love, love sharing that with people. Thatโs my absolute favorite.
Cassy Joy: Awesome. And your recipes are gorgeous.
Kristen Boehmer: Aww, thank you!
Cassy Joy: I remember when you posted your s’mores pie.
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs}
Cassy Joy: I was like; stop everything, we must make this right now! And then, you know, life got away from me. But Iโm going to do it. Iโm going to make it. While everybody is chasing their squeaky clean lifestyle habits in January, Iโm over here eating sโmores pie! {laughs}
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs}
Cassy Joy: Oh goodness. Thatโs great; thatโs really wonderful. Where do you find; can you, there are a lot of folks who listen to this podcast who are also bloggers, or aspiring bloggers, and I like to ask anybody who comes on the show that has really built something substantial. If you have any pieces of advice, or at least want to give some folks the insight of your journey of taking this idea to a larger platform.
Kristen Boehmer: So, basically bringing my kind of blog platform online was; it kind of started with sharing my story. It was February 2011 when I had my entire large intestine removed; and this was a huge, huge turning point in my life. Because it was the hardest decision Iโve ever made. And it was something that I thought was going to heal me, and I was told was going to heal me, and it didnโt. So through my own trial and error and insane struggles, and crazy wild life, I decided that it would really be honestly selfish of me not to share my story, because I know there are so many people out there that are suffering, so many people that are struggling. And they need hope. They need to hear something.
So I kind of wanted to be that source of hope; so that was my main goal in sharing my story online. And I think everyone should share their story, because everyone has been through different struggles, and we all learn and grow and expand from each other. So that was really my main goal with it. Itโs just crazy how organically it happened. It kind of; now that I look back, I can see all the pieces fall into place, but at the time I was just going with my intuition and what felt right.
Cassy Joy: Thatโs great.
Kristen Boehmer: And thatโs how I got started.
Cassy Joy: Thatโs great. And I would love to talk more about just your health journey in general. I gave a brief overview in your introduction, but what led up to that decision in 2011? You were diagnosed at 12, but thatโs a long period of time in between.
Kristen Boehmer: Yeah.
Cassy Joy: I’m sure a lot of unknowns and just trying to seek answers. And Iโm sure there are folks listening now that have been diagnosed or maybe suspect they have some sort of an autoimmune disease. But what was that process like for you?
Kristen Boehmer: Oh my goodness. Alright, Iโll try to keep it short, sweet, and to the point.
Cassy Joy: {laughs}
Kristen Boehmer: You know whatโs crazy is it was May 1997 that was I was diagnosed and that was almost 20 years ago.
Cassy Joy: Oh my goodness.
Kristen Boehmer: Yeah, I was 12 years old, and I was very suddenly diagnosed. I went from being a totally normal kid to very, very sick, and I lost 30 pounds within a month, which was like a third of my body weight at the time, so I was basically skin and bones. So thankfully I was quickly diagnosed, and I was instantly put on lots of medications. I was taking 96 pills a week, at 12 years old. Which is kind of mind blowing. And that just kind of became my new normal. Throughout the years, I was on medications, one stopped working I would move to the next; no big thing. So it always was just this endless cycle of; you know, Iโd go out of remission, end up in the hospital, start a new medication, go back in remission. I was always on medications.
When I was 21 years old, is kind of when everything really began to change. And thatโs when I woke up. I actually just started fashion design school. And I had just woken up one morning with a sinus infection, and I had lost my voice. And I didnโt really think much of it at the time; you know, not a huge deal. So kind of throughout the weeks, it started getting worse and worse and worse. So I eventually went to my doctor, and they gave me antibiotics. The sinus infection went away, voice came back, no big thing. But I stopped the antibiotics, and within a week everything came right back. Lost my voice again, sinus infection came back even worse.
So it became this endless cycle of sinus infection, losing my voice, antibiotics; and whatโs crazy I actually lost my voice for a total of a year and a half.
Cassy Joy: Oh my goodness!
Kristen Boehmer: Isnโt that crazy?
Cassy Joy: That is. You couldnโt speak at all?
Kristen Boehmer: No. only when I was on antibiotics would I have a voice.
Cassy Joy: Wow.
Kristen Boehmer: So, I was in fashion design school, so I was doing presentations in whispers {laughs} just kind of rolling with it, making it work. So I finished fashion design school. I was working as a fashion designer, still having tons of sinus infections. And it was; it was May 2010 when things started to really change. I ended up in the ER, and my doctors thought I had pneumonia, and it ended up being fungal growth spots in my lungs, which are very, very dangerous. And it was a side effect of one of the medications I was on.
Cassy Joy: Mmm.
Kristen Boehmer: So I was immediately taken off that medication while I was in the hospital, and something happened that I had never, ever, ever even thought about. Where I ran out of new medications. There was nothing new to take. I had taken them all.
Cassy Joy: Oh my goodness.
Kristen Boehmer: So, yeah. Itโs like; I just kind of thought my whole life would be; take one medication, stops working, start a new one, no big deal. So, I was put on a medication that I had taken back when I was 14 years old, hoping it would work, and it didnโt. So from then on out, my Crohnโs became really, really difficult to manage. I was kind of in and out of work as a fashion designer, and it was September 2010 when I was so sick at work one day, I called my doctor, and my doctor said, โYou cannot work anymore. You need to be home, youโre too sick.โ Thatโs kind of when my world I felt like at the time came crashing down. Because all I had known was that I wanted to be a fashion designer, and that was my career, and thatโs what I was supposed to do. It was like; what am I supposed to do now?
So that whole fall of 2010 I spent very sick, and I ended up in the hospital with obstructions in my large intestine. Which, basically when your intestines are so inflamed that the foods you eat cannot pass, and itโs the most severe pain Iโve ever experienced. And itโs very dangerous, because your intestines can burst, your body can go septic. All things that I really did not think was going to happen to me; but now I realize were a very real threat. And it was over Christmas 2010 was one of my lowest points. I ended up in the hospital over Christmas, and Iโll never forget the moment that I realized that my body was failing me. And I didnโt recognize my own body anymore. And I realized that I couldnโt go on much longer like this.
So I decided. My doctor had been talking to me about it for years, and I was just like; no way, no way. But he had been talking to me about having my large intestine removed. And since thatโs where all my obstructions were, that was the moment I decided I have to do this, because that that is better than what Iโm living right now. And it was the hardest decision Iโve ever made. But it was February 4, 2011 when I had my entire large intestine removed. And as I mentioned before, you know, that was supposed to be rainbows and butterflies and make me all better; and that didnโt work, that didnโt happen. I spent two more years very, very sick.
It was exactly 2 years to the day, which I didnโt realize at the time, but I think itโs pretty magical, that one of my doctors called me. I was still having major sinus infections, and he wanted to do sinus surgery. And that was kind of my; absolutely not. I already had this major surgery; Iโm not doing any more. So I asked him to give me 60 days, and if I couldnโt figure it out on my own then I would go in and have a CT scan and sinus surgery and all that.
So that very day; I had tried diets before, you know, different diets, nothing ever really seemed to work. But I had heard about this whole paleo thing, and I wasnโt really sure about what I was doing, but I just jumped in full force. Because I felt like I had no other options. And it was kind of my last ditch effort; like, this has to work because I donโt know what else to do {laughs}. And it did. And within; it was actually day 21, I remember. Iโll never forget. I woke up; just bounced out of bed in the morning. And Iโd never had that kind of energy. And thatโs when I knew I was totally onto something. And from then on out, my life got better and better and better; and my body, even now, it continues to heal over time. I just stick with it. And itโs been absolutely incredible. So thatโs kind of my story in a little nutshell.
Cassy Joy: Thatโs amazing! And Iโm sure every person is going to be different, but was there a particular time when you were able to, I guess transition. I donโt know; did you ever full go off any of my medications, at that point.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm. I no longer take any medications at all. I actually stopped my medication shortly before surgery. Just because of standard protocol, and then it was after my surgery where my doctor wanted to put me right back on them. And I knew; even though I didnโt understand that you could heal through diet at the time, or you could heal naturally, I knew better at that point, that my body could not handle those medications anymore.
Cassy Joy: Yeah.
Kristen Boehmer: And my immune system was so weak. So I told him, no, Iโm going to figure this out on my own. It was rough; I mean, I was definitely not in my best place. And even starting paleo, thatโs when I was still dealing with lots of obstructions; and thatโs when the obstructions started to clear up and I havenโt had one since starting paleo.
Cassy Joy: Amazing!
Kristen Boehmer: Yeah. I did have; I should have a little star asterisk in here; that this past September I actually ended up in the hospital over 3 days with a twisted intestine, which no one knows really what causes that. It was super out of the blue; I literally went from the gym to the ER {laughs}.
Cassy Joy: Oh my.
Kristen Boehmer: But thankfully I have not had any Crohnโs symptoms or anything like that. I havenโt had any surgeries thankfully. And it is different from everyone. I do hear from a lot of people who are very eager to get off their medications; and Iโm a true believer that medications have a time and a place, and thatโs totally different for everyone.
Cassy Joy: Yeah, absolutely. Thatโs really great advice. Thatโs interesting. Now, out of curiosity; when did you go paleo after; how long after your surgery?
Kristen Boehmer: It was exactly 2 years to the day. It was February 2013.
Cassy Joy: Got it. Ok, so youโve been following this lifestyle for going on 3 years? 4 years?
Kristen Boehmer: Going on 4 years. Yeah.
Cassy Joy: 4 years {laughs}. #Math. {laughing}
Kristen Boehmer: Whatever it is.
Cassy Joy: What would you say; obviously, most folks listening here are very intimately familiar with the paleo template, so they have a good sense of it. But what would you say were some of the biggest changes in your personal; because when some folks make the switch to a paleo type template, they may have already been doing some of those things. They may have already cut out some gluten containing grains, or they stopped drinking soda, or whatever it was. What would you say were some of the biggest changes as far as the diet template goes that you faced when you took the paleo plunge, so to speak.
Kristen Boehmer: OH man. I was someone who literally lived on bread, pasta, and more bread and cereal {laughs}. So it was really taking the grains out of my diet was a huge transition for me. And as I mentioned, I really didnโt know what I was doing at the time. But it became; when I started to feel better, easy. Because I had more energy, and I knew; I know what itโs like to be sick and I didnโt ever want to go there again.
Cassy Joy: Yeah.
Kristen Boehmer: So it became worth it to me to do whatever it took. So I became this new lifestyle of swapping out grains for, you know, cauliflower rice, and all sorts of things like that. So that was probably the biggest; definitely grains.
Cassy Joy: Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Thatโs great. And itโs interesting; and this will probably tie in nicely with another question I have for you. But I found; and itโs one of those things, you just really have to walk it in order to truly understand it. But when someone jumps into; letโs say a traditional diet. They pick up a book, and theyโre going to go ahead and diet because they want to lose weight, right?
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs}
Cassy Joy: They want the number on the scale to go down, and they want to be able to fit into their jeans from 10 years ago. So that being the mindset of a diet. When you get, say, 2-3 weeks into a diet, which is usually some form of calorie restriction.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: You start; you donโt necessarily feel any better, because your calorie restriction might still be a little tired; a little groggy. You havenโt changed the quality of foods, so none of those. The cloud hasnโt lifted or anything. And the only thing thatโs motivating you to continue with it is the fact that maybe the number on the scale is going down. Which of course, you and I could argue could be contributed to things other than you losing body fat.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: So that becomes the motivation, which is why so many; thatโs just not enough. Thatโs not enough motivation.
Kristen Boehmer: Absolutely. Yeah.
Cassy Joy: And thatโs why so many diets fail. Thatโs why so many people give up because itโs not enough progress for them to want to continue with it. Whereas; I totally identify with what youโre saying. When I โwent paleoโ, also took the paleo plunge, and I baby stepped into it as well. I had no idea what I was doing; there was nobody really talking about it at the time. My motivation; I never felt a drive or a motivation to stick to something like I did to this grain free, real foods lifestyle because I felt like a new version of myself. And I never wanted that feeling to go away. And that motivation is enough. Thatโs enough to make you want to continue. And thatโs when you realize; thatโs why so many people balk. Paleo is not a diet, itโs a lifestyle. You can diet on paleo; but it becomes a lifestyle when you harness that feeling; that feeling good, that success, you get to kind of upgrade it and up sell it into your forever. So I think thatโs so cool; youโre a living, breathing example of that, and youโre just so gracious to share your story with everybody. And I know itโs going to be encouraging to some.
So food aside; eventually, this is something I talk about a lot with folks like you; other content creators. Eventually you get to a point where you realize the answers are not on a plate.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: And although that can be a really great starting point; it can be a really great point of entry for somebody looking to feel better, and maybe harness new health; especially in the new year. Thatโs such a huge topic right now. But eventually you get to the point where if youโre just obsessed; if youโre taking that diet mindset and youโre applying it to a paleo template, itโs not that big of a difference. So I would love to know; I know mindset coaching is a huge passion of yours, and you really do credit a lot of your success to mindset and staying positive. Itโs a tough topic to articulate.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm; it really is.
Cassy Joy: It is. I mean, thatโs essentially the basis of this show; we wind up talking about mindset, because I was like; I donโt know how I could ever write it down, so weโll just spend 30 minutes a week talking around it. What would you say is one of the distinguishing factors as far as mindset goes and how you behave now and maybe how your mindset was geared before. Was there was a distinguishing difference? Or a shift?
Kristen Boehmer: Oh, absolutely. It was; I would say, learning to really trust my own judgment. Throughout my life, ever since I was diagnosed, I have constantly been told of what I can and cannot do by other people. And itโs not like these people mean ill will or anything; itโs just their beliefs are kind of cast onto me.
Cassy Joy: Mm-hmm.
Kristen Boehmer: And learning to create my own life, and trust my own judgment. And when someone tells me, โThatโs not possible, you canโt do thatโ know that thatโs not true. Because Iโve done that so many times. You know; my doctors have told me that healing through diet is not possible; or that diet has nothing to do with my disease. Which I know full well that it absolutely does. But I am a huge believer that you could eat the best food in the world; the cleanest, strictest paleo diet. But if you are not careful of your mindset, watching your thoughts, watching your stress, then none of that matters. If youโre stressed about the things that you eat, then I donโt believe that the food is going to have as big of an impact on you, if that makes sense.
Cassy Joy: Itโ makes perfect sense; yeah!
Kristen Boehmer: And sometimes itโs hard to articulate. But itโs such a huge passion of mine. But it was very; I used to, for so long, I used to believe what my doctors told me. I used to believe what other people told me; what I was capable of. And it became when I decided that no; Iโm going to create my own life, and Iโm going to go after what I want, and I was able to accomplish those things that it gave me more and more and more motivation that; ok, Iโm on the right track. This mindset thing is really, really something; really important. And itโs just; itโs such a huge passion of mine, absolutely.
Cassy Joy: Thatโs fabulous. Thatโs really, really great. You and I are definitely birds of a feather in that regard. In my book; mindset is chapter 1.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm, I love that. Thatโs my favorite part.
Cassy Joy: Yeah! And it really was; it was because I wanted to; if someone is actually going to sit down and read it, and I was shocked by how many people said they did read all of that front part. But I wanted that to be the first introduction because it is crucial. Thatโs priority one.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: And I completely agree with you. Iโve worked with clients one on one who have really struggled with healing themselves, and healing their bodies; and like you said, to your point; theyโre eating squeaky clean.
Kristen Boehmer: Yeah.
Cassy Joy: They couldnโt be eating any better. We write meal plans together, and they execute them flawlessly, and theyโre drinking enough water, and theyโre working out; and theyโre doing all the right things. But thereโs something mindset related thatโs holding them back.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: I often find that that becomes my biggest job, as a coach. So something that I donโt always address. Weโve done a show; we did a show way back when, and if you scroll back I think it was tips for overcoming stress. But, stress is something that I find personally difficult to coach. Because I think itโs a difficult issue to address to pull directly up from the roots. Itโs almost like you have to cut the bush down first.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: Cut the limbs off; take off the leaves, hack it down.
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs} One piece at a time.
Cassy Joy: Yeah, and then you can pull up the roots, you know. But do you have any advice for somebody who may be struggling with chronic stress? Because that could be a huge road block to achieving that comfortable state of feeling well.
Kristen Boehmer: Ohh, stress is such a tough one, I totally understand that. I actually just put out a post yesterday that was all about how I healed my adrenals. Iโll keep this super short; but I developed adrenal insufficiency from taking prednisone many years ago after my surgery. And thatโs basically; a lot of people are familiar with adrenal fatigue, and adrenal insufficiency is when you’re absolutely producing no cortisol whatsoever. So I was on prednisone and hydrocortisone. I ended up switching; theyโre very similar. But I was on that for approximately 5.5 years; and adrenals are ruled by stress. I had to learn with stress so differently; better than I ever had before. So itโs something that I have very much personally dealt with, because I completely understand that stress is always going to come up. Weโre all going to deal with some sort of stress. And itโs really just learning to handle it differently.
And it takes time, and it takes practice. But from what I understand, and what has happened in my own life, is the more I practice it, the more I practice in dealing with my stress, to letting it go, to realizing in the grand scheme of things that something I may be worried about right now really isnโt a big deal in the long run. The more I worked on that, the easier and easier it became. And I am far from perfect. I still deal with stress all the time. But I find that the more I practice is, the easier it is to let it go. So I think thatโs my biggest thing, is just start slow. Realize when youโre stressed, the first step is to recognize it. Recognize that youโre stressed, and understand why you’re stressed. And you know, I always come down to thinking, โWhatโs the worst that could happen?โ And sometimes that helps to put things in perspective as well. So I think those are my big tips for stress.
Cassy Joy: Those are really, really good.
Kristen Boehmer: Practice, practice, practice. {laughs}
Cassy Joy: Those are great tips; those are really, really great tips. And I think that a lot of stress comes from this fear of the unknown.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: Because it feels like a limitless fear; itโs boundless, there are no walls to the unknown {laughs}.
Kristen Boehmer: Absolutely.
Cassy Joy: And if you articulate potential walls, the worst that could happen, I love that point. I love that tip. Because if you could imagine the absolute worst, and then imagining yourself handling it, it really does relieve stress. It really does.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: Thatโs wonderful. Really, really great advice. I just have a couple more questions for you before I let you go today.
Kristen Boehmer: Yeah.
Cassy Joy: You are wonderfully active, and you inspire me to go and have really a whole lot of fun with my workouts. And I know there are a lot of folks who are trying to revamp their workout routine right now. And maybe itโs hard when youโre starting off to stay motivated and to keep going to the gym with that same kind of enthusiasm, which you radiate enthusiasm.
Kristen Boehmer: Thank you.
Cassy Joy: What would you say; do you have any tips for somebody who wants to be that excited about a workout routine? What keeps you going back?
Kristen Boehmer: OH man. It is all about finding something that you absolutely love. You know for so long, I was in the mindset of, โYouโve got to do your treadmill, and your elliptical, and lift weights,โ I still love lifting weights once in a while. But itโs not something that I could look forward to 5 days a week. {laughs} You know, eventually to me that would get boring. Some people may absolutely love it. But it is about really; my entire life has been about thinking outside the box. So finding a workout that I love was; I kind of do a mix of different things.
I do some weight lifting, and I also train; itโs called America Ninja warrior. Not particularly the show, but itโs just the type of training that I do. And itโs really outside the box. Itโs not something that you would typically think of as a workout. But, for some people, that might be hiking outside. For some people it might be going to dance class. Itโs all really finding your true passion. What calls to you? What is something that youโre working out but it doesnโt even feel like youโre working out. Because thatโs what this kind of training does for me. Itโs just so much fun, and I found a gym where everyone is so motivating and encouraging. It pushes you to keep getting better, and better, and better. I have a ton of fun with it; itโs such awesome. I wish that everyone would enjoy their workout; thatโs a huge wish of mine.
Cassy Joy: Mm-hmm. Amen sister.
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs}
Cassy Joy: I totally hear you. And if people listening listened to the first episode in the New Year, that was one of my tips, was ditch the workout you hate for one that you love.
Kristen Boehmer: Yes!
Cassy Joy: You do have a workout soul mate out there youโve just got to go find it. You might have to kiss a couple of frogs, but you will find something you love to do.
Kristen Boehmer: Yep. Iโve kissed lots of frogs. {laughs}
Cassy Joy: {laughs} I have too. One of my frogs is definitely swimming laps. {laughs}
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs}
Cassy Joy: Iโm not exactly a natural, and I donโt enjoy it. So cross that one off the list; narrowing it down.
Kristen Boehmer: Same here with you on that one. And you know; some people may, that may be their true passion. They absolutely love it. Weโre all different.
Cassy Joy: Yeah. We are. And isnโt that cool? There are folks I know who love it.
Kristen Boehmer: Mm-hmm.
Cassy Joy: Thatโs why I tried it; because they loved it so much.
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs}
Cassy Joy: Well thatโs wonderful.
Kristen Boehmer: Itโs definitely worth a try.
Cassy Joy: Exactly; definitely worth a try. Well, thank you so much. I know that you have some really fabulous resources available on your blog for folks who; maybe, Iโm sure that youโve spoken to some people here and they want to know how they can access all of your good works more. So do you want to tell folks whatโs available to them and where they can find it? Remember weโll include links to all of this stuff in the show notes that Kristen is going to tell you about, in case youโre driving and you donโt have a chance to jot this down.
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs} Which is usually when I listen to podcasts, too. Or doing dishes. So, you can find me on my website www.livinglovingpaleo.com. And I recently launched a brand new program; which is, Iโm still providing tons of free content on my website, and I launched this brand new program called Invincible Inspiration which is totally bonus material, and itโs a membership website that people can sign up for a very small fee, and they get bonus videos and recipes and all sorts of awesome content, and Iโm really, really delving into mindset on that site. So itโs a lot of fun.
Cassy Joy: Awesome. Iโm so excited. I saw that, and I was like; that is cool!
Kristen Boehmer: {laughs}
Cassy Joy: You go girl.
Kristen Boehmer: Itโs been a lot of fun.
Cassy Joy: {laughs} I can imagine. Well thatโs wonderful. You definitely need to check that out. Check out Kristen over at www.livinglovingpaleo.com. You can find her on all the social medias as Living Loving Paleo. If you want more of her positivity, realistic approach to actual long-term living healthy and vibrantly; definitely I couldnโt recommend a better person. So thank you so much for coming on the show today; itโs been so much fun.
Kristen Boehmer: Thank you so much! This was amazing. Thanks for having me.
Cassy Joy: It has been my honor. Well thank you guys so much for tuning in. remember we will be back again next week.