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Ep. 24: Turn ideas into Reality: a 5-step process


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Episode 24 Topics:

  • 5 step process for making your dreams a reality.
  • Foods that are in season RIGHT NOW!
  • Ideas for budget friendly outdoor workouts.

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Ep. 24: From Idea to Reality: a 5-step process

This is the Fed and Fit podcast starting your week off with motivational thoughts on real food and fun fitness activities with Cassy Joy Garcia and co-host, Charissa Talbot. Remember our disclaimer; the information and opinions shared in this podcast are solely those of any given individual, and not a substitute for medical advice. Here are the ladies.

On the episode of the Fed and Fit podcast, we talk about how to turn ideas into reality via our 5 step process, the foods that are in season right now, and ideas on budget friendly outdoor workouts.

Cassy Joy: Good morning Charissa!

Charissa Talbot: Good morning! And it actually is morning.

Cassy Joy: {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: Sometimes we record, and it’s not the morning. But I’m drinking coffee, its morning time.

Cassy Joy: I have an empty coffee cup sitting next to me, I’m kind of wishing it had more in it.

Charissa Talbot: That’s kind of sad.

Cassy Joy: {laughs} Yeah. I’m glad to have you back; I want to hear all about your vacation and Martha’s Vineyard. I saw some photos and it just looked beautiful.

Charissa Talbot: It was very picturesque. Very, very nice. I had an interesting, I had a rough start to my vacation. You know I really needed the break and to relax, and I had a couple of flight changes I had to make, and each flight I was on, one had maintenance issues, and another one got stuck on the runway for a long period of time, so instead of being able to walk from one plane change to the other, all day long I was on a plane, and then running.

Cassy Joy: {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: On a plane, and then running, and then on a plane. And then when I got to Martha’s Vineyard, they had left my luggage in New York City. So I didn’t get my luggage until the next day at like 4 o'clock, which was a little rough. But I will say, having a good attitude and being friendly and happy goes a long way. The flight attendant at the airport was so pleasant, and you could tell she was having a rough day, and I was just patient and kind and nice, and it paid off. She made sure I got my bag, and when I came back to get on my flight home, she asked me to save my receipts from stuff I needed to buy, because of course I didn’t have anything with me.

Cassy Joy: Mm-hmm.

Charissa Talbot: And she went ahead and just put in my refund, and I’m going to be getting a check in a couple of days, so. I don’t know, it just, you know there are some people that are just so, you see them in the airport, they’re really stressed out, and they’re frustrated, and they’re snappy, and it’s like, it doesn’t serve you or the people around you or your purpose or your goal. Everything is going to be what it’s going to be, just relax people. {laughs}

Cassy Joy: Yeah!

Charissa Talbot: And be kind. Because being a flight attendant or working behind the counter or any of those jobs, it’s very taxing and I can’t imagine. Ugh, man those girls, they go through a lot. And boys.

Cassy Joy: Mm-hmm.

Charissa Talbot: So just be nice. Everyone, just be nice.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, you know it goes back to the age old rule, and this is something I really do live by, and have it twirling around in my brain on a regular basis. But I feel like a lot of bad attitudes that we project out into the world come from a place of us feeling like we have it harder than everybody else.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: You know, so we deserve their sympathy, their pity, we constantly think, well I’ve got it tougher. And if you just assume, the age old rule is, if you just assume that everybody is fighting a harder battle than you, I think it’s a humble reality check.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: Sure, you’ve got a lot going on, but there are folks out there, you don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.

Charissa Talbot: Yep. And everyone has stuff going on.

Cassy Joy: Everybody.

Charissa Talbot: Everyone’s got to be somewhere, everyone’s trying to get to their flight, everyone’s wants their bags. It’s no different.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, you don’t know what’s going on in someone’s life. The safest default, like you said, is to be kind and patient with others, and you never know what that’s going to mean to somebody. So that’s great. I’m glad you had a good trip!

Charissa Talbot: I did. After all of that happened, I ended up having just the most relaxing time. I slept a lot. I read a lot. And I ate a lot. I put myself into a food coma every day. Good food, not bad food.

Cassy Joy: {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: ON my last day, there’s a place in Martha’s Vineyard that’s been on the Food Network, and it’s been featured on blogs. It’s this place called Backdoor Donuts.

Cassy Joy: Uh-huh.

Charissa Talbot: And it’s in Martha’s Vineyard. You know, I didn’t want to gluten bomb myself on vacation; because the last thing on vacation, you don’t want to feel sick or uncomfortable. So my plan all along, and I planned this out was, on the morning of my flight was to go to Backdoor Donuts and buy a donut and then eat it on the way to the plane.

Cassy Joy: {laughing}

Charissa Talbot: Because I figured, being on a plane isn’t that comfortable anyways, and, you know.

Cassy Joy: Might as well add insult to injury! {laughing}

Charissa Talbot: I might as well, if I’m going to do it then, I’d rather be bloated, and it didn’t matter. Let me tell you, I just got a plain glazed donut, although I did look at everything else there, and oh, let me tell you those bear claws were calling my name. But I saw how giant they were and I was like, I can’t. I’m just here to have a donut, Charissa, you don’t need to go crazy. So I just got a simple glazed donut, and I enjoyed every single bite of it. It was absolutely delicious. I can still taste it now. This is the problem, this is why you don’t do this, because all I’m thinking about now is the donut. {laughs}

You know, I did ok. I didn’t have as bad a reaction as I thought I was going to have. I definitely had a reaction, but it wasn’t awful. But you know, sometimes you just have to do things like that, and it was delicious.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, live a little. When my sister, my youngest sister Sam.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: She is actually graduating from grad school this coming weekend. So when this episode airs, on Monday, she graduated yesterday {laughs} and she’s at Seattle University. Two years ago, I can’t believe it was two years ago, but I drove with Samantha from San Antonio, Texas, up to Seattle. And we took our time, we scheduled a nice long road trip, and made strategic stops. Because she wanted company for the ride, and I was happy to do it. I still remember, we scheduled a nice long driving layover so to speak in Portland, and we went to Voodoo Donuts there in Portland.

Charissa Talbot: Ooohh.

Cassy Joy: And unlike you, I did not just get a glazed donut. {laughs} Sam and I walked in and our eyes just bugged out of our heads, and we ordered a dozen of their crazy various ones, and really what actually happened, it was very glutinous and not very responsible, but we took a bite of each of them {laughing}

Charissa Talbot: Hey, that’s a great way to do it. That’s a great way to do it.

Cassy Joy: It was fine, you know. We definitely didn’t feel great, but I bring that up because I just want folks to know, you’ve got to live a little, I agree.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: I mean, clearly I don’t have celiac and that kind of exposure doesn’t make me as ill as it does others with an actual autoimmune disease. But it’s a setback, and it’s one that you weigh. But that’s great!

Charissa Talbot: Yeah, it was beautiful there. Definitely. And I’m going to be doing a whole blog post on doing paleo in Martha’s Vineyard, or even just gluten free, because I ate a lot of different things there.

Cassy Joy: That’s nice.

Charissa Talbot: So if anyone happens to be going on vacation there any time, they can check it out. Hopefully have that up in a week or two.

Cassy Joy: Good for you. Don’t you love making content? That’s like the favorite part of my job.

Charissa Talbot: its fun.

Cassy Joy: {laughs} It really is.

Charissa Talbot: I loved eating all the food, and now I have to write about it.

Cassy Joy: We’ll talk about that today, how that fits into the process.

Charissa Talbot: Exactly.

Cassy Joy: The 5-step process of turning ideas into reality. That sounds like your doing work phase and doing research phase.


Charissa Talbot: So Cassy, what is up with you?

Cassy Joy: Oh, well I’ll make it quick because I want to get to the meat of the show, but my garden is starting to produce.

Charissa Talbot: Woot, woot!

Cassy Joy: Which is very thrilling. Some of you have commented and sent me notes that you enjoy hearing updates about the garden, because I must sound a little insecure about bringing it up {laughs} so much. I really appreciate that validation, thank you so much for sending me those notes, because I am really excited about this garden. It’s starting to produce, I feel like a proud little mama. My cucumbers are doing so well. I’ve already clipped 6 cucumbers that are about 8 inches long.

Charissa Talbot: Whoooo.

Cassy Joy: It’s amazing!

Charissa Talbot: It’s very exciting.

Cassy Joy: I don’t want to get cheesy, but it really, it’s like a miracle.

Charissa Talbot: Yep.

Cassy Joy: It just makes you realize just how precious food is and what a miracle it is. It’s amazing. It came from a seed, soil, water, and sunshine. It’s just incredible. So that’s exciting. I am currently reading #fedandfitbookclub currently reading a book called Into the Light by Dr. John Lerma. If you’ve never read this book or haven’t listened to it, I really encourage you to if you enjoy getting goose bumps and hearing stories of angels.

Charissa Talbot: Oooh, I like that.

Cassy Joy: It’s beautiful, Charissa. Dr. Lerma, just to give you a quick insight on this book if you’re not familiar with it. Dr. Lerma actually works, I don’t know if he’s still there, but when he wrote the book he was at MD Anderson in Houston in the terminal patient ward. And he’s this young, vivacious doctor whose mission in life is to help ease people’s passing, and make them as comfortable as possible, not only for their bodies but emotionally provide that support. And it’s his story after witnessing hundreds of people die. What he has essentially done is he’s taken all of these data points, as a scientist, and wrote about some of the most interesting stories surrounding people’s deaths. And he writes about specific people, a 9-year-old little boy who is this incredibly enlightened soul. And then a Nazi, someone who was a Nazi general in world war II and was in charge of some of these concentration camps, and talking about these people, what they go through right before death. Anyway it’s fascinating, and the thread that ties it all together is the presence of angels and forgiveness, and it’s just really beautiful. Recommend that!

Lastly, update, by the time this episode airs, I will be on Periscope. I will have my first few films up there, so you can check me out. Periscope, if you haven’t heard…

Charissa Talbot: It’s about time!

Cassy Joy: {laughs} I know! Periscope, if you haven’t heard about it before is essentially like live YouTube. There’s really no editing that goes into the video, it’s kind of like I turn on my camera and you get to see a piece of my life.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: We’re going to be doing some fun things, so you can check it out there, but that’s what’s going in.

Charissa Talbot: So, Cassy, what’s your handle going to be on Periscope?

Cassy Joy: Oh, {laughs} thanks Charissa. These are the things that I don’t think about.

Charissa Talbot: {laughs}

Cassy Joy: You can find me at FedandFit.

Charissa Talbot: Nice.

Cassy Joy: Just like the podcast you’re listening to, so you probably already knew how to spell that! {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: Perfect. And I was thinking some time, I was actually going to talk to you about this Cassy, because I’ve been on Periscope for a minute, and I was thinking some time we should Periscope us recording the podcast. That would be fun; live.

Cassy Joy: I totally agree. I think that’s a great idea.

Charissa Talbot: It would be so exciting!

Cassy Joy: {laughs} This is so much fun!

Charissa Talbot: Periscope is really, really fun, and a lot of people are getting on it. It’s definitely the new social media craze.

Cassy Joy: Yeah.

Charissa Talbot: And it’s really nice; actually, I love. So Tim Ferris has been doing these live Q&As that are just amazing; it’s crazy.

Cassy Joy: Well he’s on Meerkat, isn’t he?

Charissa Talbot: He’s on Periscope.

Cassy Joy: Oh, he is on Periscope? Ok.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: In case you’re curious; Periscope is owned by Twitter.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: and Meerkat, like the animal, is a similar live streaming app that I think is independent right now, but they both do similar things. I’m also on Meerkat, but I haven’t quite figured that one out yet.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah, I think Periscope is going to end up flushing them out, unfortunately.

Cassy Joy: It is kind of big dog.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: It’s probably going to eat Meerkat eventually. But it’s nice to root for the other one, too.


Charissa Talbot: It is, it is. Alright, so I am super excited about our topic today, because it’s all stuff that I need to hear for myself, but that I’m also happy to give my input on as well.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, you know, it’s a never ending process.

Charissa Talbot: It is.

Cassy Joy: There’s something that you learn when you start to really, and a part of our process, which we’ll talk about in a little bit, is interviewing people who are doing what you think you want to do.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: Every single level of success, you guys, whether it’s somebody who has achieved the goals you are setting ahead of yourself, you feel like they’re already there, they’re the experts in whatever it is you want to do. If you ask them, they will tell you that they are still in this process as well. Turning ideas into reality is a never ending circle, and you're constantly going back and refining. So don’t think I’m talking about this like, well this is how I started a blog, and how Charissa and I started a podcast. Because I don’t really feel like I’ve actually accomplished; I mean, they’re accomplishments, but I don’t really feel at the end of the day that we’re done with anything, you know? This is a never-ending process.

So we are in this conversation with you. Like Charissa said, this is something she needs, this is something I need too, and it’s something that I have to keep my mind in.

Charissa Talbot: And it’s fun for Cassy and I to come together and put together both of our ideas on this and share it with you guys, and then for us to hear it from each other. I mean, it’s good for everybody.

Cassy Joy: It is good for everybody. This is probably what we talk about more than anything.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: Me and colleagues; me and colleagues. That’s good grammar!

Charissa Talbot: {laughs}

Cassy Joy: {laughs} When we talk offline, to be honest, this is what we talk about.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: it’s not like, what do we think of butter versus ghee, you know? We talk about, well who did you interview before you launched X. Things like that.

Charissa Talbot: Right.

Cassy Joy: So it’s interesting. So new ideas that you might want to bring into reality can include, because I want this to be all encompassing.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: And I want you guys to realize that this applies to a lot of situations.

Charissa Talbot: Everything.

Cassy Joy: It could be that you want to start a blog. You know, you’ve got an idea for a blog. And we’ve talked about it before on this podcast. If you’ve got an idea, or a passion, or a story you want to share, go do it. One of the members of my team, Kelly, shout out Kelly!

Charissa Talbot: {laughs} Hey Kelly!

Cassy Joy: Kelly wanted to start a blog and she didn’t need my pushing or encouragement, she was going to do it anyway, but I just think it’s so awesome, if you want to go check her blog out, it’s http://eatthegains.com/. But she’s doing a great job there, and she just did it. And she kind of went through some of this process too, and she’s also still in it.

Achieving financial freedom could be an idea that you want to bring into reality. That’s a big one! And I keep thinking that one day I’m going to bring Austin, my fiancé, onto the show to talk about that, because that’s really his area of expertise.

Maybe you want to open a restaurant, or maybe you want to open a gym. Maybe you want to right size your health. These are ideas that you can make happen. Maybe you’re a musician, and you want to produce your first CD. I know another expert who can talk about that, Miss Kimberly Dunn, my sister.

You could want to start a YouTube channel, like yours truly! I’m working on that right now, and I’ve been working in this process. You might want to become a certified nutrition consultant. I know a lot of listeners here are either in school, thinking about school, or you have graduated, but that’s a process. Or, maybe you're just planning a wedding. Not just, but {laughs} maybe you’re planning a wedding. That’s also a process.

Charissa Talbot: Or like our pal Superman, or Spiderman, excuse me, that we had on a little while back. He just had an idea, and he brought it to fruition.

Cassy Joy: Exactly.

Charissa Talbot: So, anything. Anything you want.

Cassy Joy: Ok, then let’s get to it. So the 5-step process for making your dreams and ideas a reality.

Charissa Talbot: Number one, if you want to dive into this Cassy, is get to the bottom of why before how. You want to dive into that for us?

Cassy Joy: I’d love to. This is probably the one piece that I actually feel the most passionately about, and if you listen to my interview with Mary Shenouda, the paleo chef who was episode 23. You get a flavor of this, but it is crucial that you analyze why you want to do something before you start thinking about how you’re going to do it. Ideas are great, but why do you want them to come true? If you don’t fully understand why something is important to you or why the world needs it, your motivation behind that idea when it comes time to putting in the work to actually make it happen might fizzle out.

So, a personal story here. A new project manager on my team, her name is Michelle, asked me recently, and I was telling Charissa a little bit ago, she’s a dear friend of mine for a long time, and she can ask me those tough questions when it comes to my business. But she asked me, what is the number one question you ask yourself before you make a decision about something involving your business, meaning Fed and Fit.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: And the answer I gave her, she said was not what she expected at all. She thought it was going to be something like, will this grow my company? Will this help me reach more people? Will this make me more money? And you know what, you guys, the honest to God answer I gave her for the thing I ask myself over and over again before I do anything from write a blog post, publish something on Instagram, or come up with a podcast, is will this actually help someone.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: And the nature of that question alone uncovers why I am doing what it is I am doing. That is my why, is to help people.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: And to help people is my motivation and what keeps me going. Ideas and inspiration are fleeting, you know. I want to do a holiday book; yeah, that was a really fun project, but why did I want to do a holiday book? It was not to make a product, it was not to help monetize my hobby blog, which is what it did. That was definitely a consequence, and one of the reasons why I needed to do something like that, but I did it to help people put healthier food on their holiday table in a way that still felt like Christmas and Thanksgiving. The only thing that really lasts is the why, so before you jump into any of the research or doing the work or actually publishing things, you need to understand why you're doing something.

Charissa Talbot: Yep. And I always say, if you are doing something that genuinely comes from your heart, the success will follow that.

Cassy Joy: Absolutely! People can tell, the sniff test doesn’t take long. They can sniff out authenticity pretty quickly, and that’s one of the reasons why I think it was important for us doing the podcast, why did we want to do the podcast? It was because I know there are people out there, myself included, I identify as a consumer, I enjoy consuming information on a podcast. I love it, I love listening to podcasts on my drive. And that’s easier for me than reading a blog post, so that’s why. I wanted to meet people where you’re at, so I can deliver information to you in a way that makes it easier for you and ideally help you out.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: And people can tell when you’re being genuine. I hope you guys; if you’re still listening to this podcast 24 episodes later, you probably don’t think that Charissa and I are a couple of phonies. Like you said, true passion.

Charissa Talbot: The snorting is real.

Cassy Joy: {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: I mean, what can I say.

Cassy Joy: It’s all real. I hope you can see my heart, because it’s really there. Ok, sorry. I could talk about that one all day.

Charissa Talbot: No, it’s good! It’s good. Ok, so number two is laying or lay the ground work.

Cassy Joy: Mm-hmm, lay the ground work. So this is all the preparation to doing the work.

Charissa Talbot: Do the homework.

Cassy Joy: Mm-hmm. It involves seeking mentorship; we’ll talk about all these individually in just a second. But seeking mentorship, doing your homework, and making a plan. Ok, when it comes to mentors, I think about this quote. You guys, if you subscribe to my newsletter, or you’re a member of my Fed and Fit project, you know that every email I send out now, at least for the project, involves a quote.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: I’m a quote junkie. One of my favorites my Isaac Newton, “If I have seen farther than others, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” So when it comes to mentors, they’re crucial. Every successful person that you interview or that you read an interview about, I guarantee you they have surrounded themselves with mentors, or people who they perceive as having being better at certain things, or smarter, or more experienced. Surround yourself with those people. Is there already somebody out there doing something that you think you want to do? If so, reach out to them.

Charissa Talbot: Yep.

Cassy Joy: You might be shocked by the response you get. I have been blown away. Every once in a while I joke that some days I’ll have an extra cup of coffee, it’s like an extra cup of courage, and I go on this wild spree of emailing people these questions that I was maybe intimidating to email, thinking they would just ignore it. What’s the worst thing that can happen is they can ignore it, right? And they respond! It’s just amazing. So seek out mentorship.

Number two; do your homework, like Charissa said. Research all the ins and outs. If you’re starting a new healthy lifestyle, this could be researching the gym schedule, one that’s going to really be compatible with your family and your work. Researching financial implications.

Charissa Talbot: Yep.

Cassy Joy: What’s it really going to cost to open a restaurant, or what’s it really going to cost to host a blog? There are ways to do it free, there are ways to make it really expensive, so do your research. That is how you figure out the best path for you. What’s the equipment needed. So for a podcast, for example, what were the costs and equipment needed here? Well, we needed headphones, we needed a call recorder, which cost a whopping $30.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm. {laughs}

Cassy Joy: We needed Skype, which so you guys know, we’re just recording on a Skype phone call, it’s easy. And then there’s hosting, and that’s actually pretty costly, but it’s worth it for me to be able to provide this for you guys, and I know it’s worth definitely Charissa’s time, as well.

Charissa Talbot: For sure.

Cassy Joy: And I think it’s important to note, Marie Forleo, who is I guess, what does she call herself? A business coach, an entrepreneur coach?

Charissa Talbot: Yeah. And if you don’t follow her, start following her, whether it be on Facebook or Instagram or check out her blog, because she does have programs that you can pay for, but she also has a lot of great free information on there. It’s just great.

Cassy Joy: It is great.

Charissa Talbot: She is truly motivational.

Cassy Joy: I like to consume Marie’s information via email. Her newsletter is dynamite, and I also really appreciate her YouTube channel. She’s got Marie TV.

Charissa Talbot: Yes.

Cassy Joy: And that’s lovely. But one of her favorite sayings is that everything is figure outable. So keep that in mind. You can figure out anything. And this is part of your homework, figuring things out or how to make them happen. I am now personally editing our shows, our podcasts. I edit the sound bits. {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: {laughs}

Cassy Joy: I had to learn how to use Garage Band, and those of you who actually use Garage Band are probably like, well it’s not that difficult Cassy, but it was really intimidating at first. But you have to have that attitude that everything is figure outable. I can figure this out, and I can do it.

Charissa Talbot: It’s just one foot in front of the other. That’s it.

Cassy Joy: Exactly. You do one thing at a time, and eventually it will all snowball.

Charissa Talbot: So once you’ve got your mentors, and you’ve done your homework, then you can have a plan, right?

Cassy Joy: exactly. Then we make a plan. Remember, this is all under step 2, lay the groundwork.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: Part C is make your plan. Now, footnote. This is important, because I identify with this deeply, and I think it trips up a lot of people. I want you to train your hearts eyes to focus on the road ahead, not the entire mountain. You know? So the analogy that I think about pretty regularly is, let’s say you’re getting ready to hike Everest. Ok?

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: And sometimes when you’re taking on an enormous project, it can feel like you’re about to hike Everest. Maybe you know that you need to lose 50 pounds. That is enormous, you know?

Charissa Talbot: Right.

Cassy Joy: And it can feel enormous. Or maybe you want to write a book. That can really feel enormous. What you have to do, just like if you were going to hike Everest, is if you just stare at the tippy top of the mountain the whole way up, you’re going to trip and fall! You’re going to lose your way, you're not going to be able to see how to protect yourself as you go, and pick the right paths, and make it an enjoyable experience. But if you keep your eyes on the road ahead.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: And you generally point yourself in the right direction, you are going to get there.

Charissa Talbot: The other thing, too, sometimes if you look at the whole mountain, it can be hard to even take that first step because you’re paralyzed by fear.

Cassy Joy: Totally.

Charissa Talbot: Because it looks so, like I can’t do that. There’s no way I can do that. A little side note, a personal story. My first year of college, I let fear stop me from doing much better work than I was capable of because I looked at everything that way. I looked at the top of the mountain first. It’s like, ok what are the steps I need to complete this class, and it was something I definitely had to learn the hard way, because my grades were not matching up to my potential because I was so overwhelmed and fearful, and I wasn’t looking at those small baby steps. I was way up in the clouds somewhere thinking, oh my gosh, how am I going to do this? So it’s really important to focus, even if it’s just a day at a time.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, take it a day at a time! And just to continue with the analogy, because I love analogies.

Charissa Talbot: We love analogies.

Cassy Joy: You could think of it as, today my goal is to get to this base camp.

Charissa Talbot: Right.

Cassy Joy: You know? And when you get there, you celebrate your little butt off, because that is a huge achievement. I don’t want to belittle your work by calling them; baby steps are important, because we want to think about small, good, gradual steps that are still forward progress, but don’t belittle the progress that you’re making. Its tremendous, regardless of how far away you are from the end goal.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: Ok, so back to making your plan. I also like to think, in addition to keeping your eyes on the road ahead and not worrying too much about the entire thing ahead, it’s also important to know that if it’s not scheduled, it isn’t real. And that might actually also be a Marie Forleo quote, I just don’t remember. {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: {laughs}

Cassy Joy: When something becomes your thoughts as well, you have a hard time remembering where it came from.

Charissa Talbot: Yes.

Cassy Joy: draft a doable schedule, and then honor it. Like, I can make it to base camp at X elevation feet by next week. I know I can do that. Well then, do it.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: And when you’re writing your schedule out, if it doesn’t feel doable and it’s not realistic, then change it and make it realistic. My team and I were talking yesterday, and we have a huge launch that we’re going to do in the next month and a half. And we thought, well what if we go ahead and go live on July 1st. Yeah, I could do it on July 1st, but some other things would have to be sacrificed, and that’s not ok. So we’re pushing it to August 1st, and it’s going to be fine! So make a schedule that you can stick to and honor it.

And my dad’s advice here; I actually had breakfast with my parents this morning at their house, and I asked them, because I told them we were going to record this episode. And my parents are entrepreneurs. They built a company, they were both in their 50s when they started their company, which is a huge life change, you guys. It’s never too late to chase your dreams.

Charissa Talbot: Never too late.

Cassy Joy: Never too late. And I was in college when they decided to do this, and that was a pretty scary time. Luckily I had some financial aid, but they put all of their savings into starting this company, and I remember sitting in my dorm room writing congressional reports as part of one of their deliverables to help them out.

But I asked them, what’s your advice on this? Because they did it. They grew, it was 8 years ago now, from just the 2 of them to now they have over 100 employees, they are doing really well. It’s built on their values. Really strong family values. How did you do it? My dad’s advice was, of course like we said, break your big goals up into smaller goals. But even more importantly, and this is why I really value him as a mentor, tackle things first that require less resources, and then schedule your goals that require more resources for later.

Charissa Talbot: yeah.

Cassy Joy: So when you’re first starting out, your resources are, one of them is your time. We could argue the value of your time, but truly it doesn’t cost you any money to give your time. So give all of your time when you're first starting out, making your ideas into reality, and then if you need a million dollars to make something else happen down the road, then schedule that milestone for later when you can build up projects that help fund and support that. So this all goes back into the thread of being realistic. My parents worked out of their homes for the first 2.5 years, instead of just investing money into an office space. Which would have been cool, and they could have done it, but they knew it was more important to have financial stability to keep paying their employees at the beginning stages.

Charissa Talbot: Right.

Cassy Joy: So be really realistic with yourself on what it is you can do. If it’s financial freedom, again we’ll talk about that later, but for a restaurant, maybe don’t spend all of your money on a billboard. Spend it on some groundwork social media campaigns, something like that. And then lastly with your plan, most importantly to end on is to stay flexible.

Charissa Talbot: Yep.

Cassy Joy: Right? There’s the whole joke, we make plans and God laughs. It’s really important to stay flexible. I do make very detailed plans, I’m very much a type A person, but I also like to joke that I’m a giant laid back hippie.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: This is something that I have to work on, but I make a plan, and if something comes differently than I would have expected, you have to stay nimble and be able to go with the flow.

Charissa Talbot: And just to tie this back into that Mt. Everest or looking at that big mountain; you may start off, and that may even change.

Cassy Joy: Mm-hmm, totally.

Charissa Talbot: Your big picture can totally change. So that’s why it’s important to stay focused, and like your dad said, the most important thing is do what you can with what you’ve got, and don’t over financially commit yourself. Some people, they can do that. They quit their jobs, and they go for it. And if that’s you, that’s great. But some others would feel good with just putting the time and dedication they have on the side to it and letting it grow into a point that they can do that. So there are different ways to go about it, and just do what feels right for you. And you’ll know that.

Cassy Joy: Totally. You will know that. For example, I’m constantly working on updates to the Fed and Fit project. The first one that we hosted was hosted on Facebook, you guys. It was a secret Facebook group, which is essentially free right now. Because that’s what we could, as a company thought would be the best action to take right now. And now, I am building behind the scenes, a custom database. A really cool website that’s going to be a cool user experience. And that costs a lot of money, but it didn’t make sense to do it before but now it does.

Charissa Talbot: Right.

Cassy Joy: So don’t get ahead of yourself, and do not belittle your achievements as you go.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah. Alright, number 3. {laughs} We’re like, we’re going to get this one under 30 minutes today! Nope, not happening.

Cassy Joy: We did talk about that {laughs}.

Charissa Talbot: Ok, so number 3 is doing the work. Take action!

Cassy Joy: Yeah. Do the work.

Charissa Talbot: I mean, stop talking about it and do it. {laughs}

Cassy Joy: Just do it you guys, do it! I think this is probably the part of the process that we as doers do not talk about enough. Because it is not glamorous, it is not pretty, and it is not very exciting to do the work. You might feel like when you’re doing the work that you’re spending a lot of hours investing in it, and you may not feel like you have a lot to show for it, and this is normal. It’s a part of the process. So don’t get too antsy to see results, because for anything to come true you really must make an investment in your time and effort first.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: And if you do not make that investment, everything else will fall flat. It’s like, oh goodness, let me come up with an example that doesn’t give away too much of what I’ve got coming up {laughs}. Do you have an example? {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: Well, so this is something that I need to hear because I have 4 different projects going on, and I just need to start. {laughs} I just need to start doing the work. And it’s not fun. It’s not sexy, you kind of have to just get your hands in there and start going. You really do.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, and if you lay out these 5 steps on a timeline, you guys, doing the work takes up most of it.

Charissa Talbot: Most of it, yeah.

Cassy Joy: It takes up most of the time. Ok, here we go.

Charissa Talbot: A lot of times you’ll get stuck in steps 1 through 2 anyways, and then you’ll never start actually doing the work.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, and then you get to doing the work, and you’re like, holy guacamole, this is a lot.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: And then you just want to throw in the towel. Don’t. stick with it, you guys. If you really believe in your why, you can do this.

Charissa Talbot: Yes.

Cassy Joy: You can make this happen. Here you go, here’s an example. The work that I put in to our podcast, preparing for a podcast, you guys. Sometimes, for our 101 episodes, like alcohol, and caffeine, I forget some of our other ones {laughs}.

Charissa Talbot: Cassy does a lot of work. She really does.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, you guys.

Charissa Talbot: It blows me away. I’m like, how much time did you spend on this? It’s amazing. She’s really good.

Cassy Joy: {laughs} Well, but you know, I enjoy doing the work. And this is really what I want to get at. If you really want, sure it takes up most of the time, but if you really want to see your dreams into reality, you have to get to your mind to a point where you’re going to enjoy doing the work. Just like in school. You’ve got to enjoy going to school and enjoy that process. And that’s all your attitude; you can change your attitude about it.

Charissa Talbot: Yep.

Cassy Joy: Sure, I might know that if I’m going to do a 101 episode, I’m going to have to budget 8 hours to research and make sure I’m giving you guys the best information that’s out there. Because I don’t want to stand by it if it’s not the best. I won’t put my name on it.

Charissa Talbot: Right.

Cassy Joy: So I have gotten my attitude wrapped around, alright, yeah! Tomorrow I’m going to spend 8 hours researching and making sure I’ve my mind wrapped all the way around caffeine and how it works in the body. You know?

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: Anyways, that’s part of it. Doing the work can involve going to school, recipe testing if you’re a blogger or writing a book, gradually eliminating foods from your diet so you can eventually work your way to a healthier lifestyle. Those are like those baby steps that are still tremendous. They’re tremendous pieces of doing the work.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: It may feel like it’s taking forever before you actually arrive at whatever your health goals are. Going to the gym 3 times a week. You’re not going to see progress overnight! You're doing the work, you're going, you’re showing up. Meeting with investors, if you have a project coming up that’s actually going to require some serious monetary upfront. Networking is part of doing the work. Going to conferences, calling people, emailing people, connecting on social media. You guys, that’s work. But you have to think about it. Being on Instagram, essentially, is work. It’s a part of my job description, but I love it.

Charissa Talbot: Yep.

Cassy Joy: I love networking with you guys. I love answering your questions, responding to comments, it’s all about your attitude. And lastly, part of doing the work is taking care of yourself in the process. And I wanted to throw that one in there, because it’s really easy when you’ve hashed out the whys, you know why you’re doing this, why you’re achieving this, you’ve done the research. You’ve got backing and accountability, and you’ve got mentors that are rooting for you, and you know exactly the road to take. You are now in the throes of doing the work. You’re doing the research, you’re actually making these things happen. It is all too easy to forsake yourself in that process.

I’m not saying it’s bad to do that; sometimes it’s going to happen. I’ve got a major project coming up, and it’s going to take a major toll on me.

Charissa Talbot: And I know so many, we have so many friends that have written books, and by the time the book is done, their health condition is just not good.

Cassy Joy: Yeah.

Charissa Talbot: Doing something that’s reaching these big goals and doing all the work can take a toll on your body, and sometimes it’s going to happen. Then other times, maybe it’s best to do things at a slower pace if you can. A lot of times, your under a deadline and it’s about getting it done. So as much as you possibly can, taking care of yourself is so important.

Cassy Joy: And if you have to, think of taking care of yourself as part of your job.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: I know the moms listening out there will really understand this, but part of taking care of yourself is so that you can continue to take care of your babies. Right?

Charissa Talbot: Yeah. I think Oprah said something about, if you’re cup’s not 100% full, you have no overflow to share with other people.

Cassy Joy: Absolutely.

Charissa Talbot: So if you’re trying to, if you’re tank is under 50% and you’re trying to also give other people and help other people, it’s kind of, you’re not giving people the best part of you that you really want to because you’re not even full yourself. I love that analogy.

Cassy Joy: That’s a great analogy. That Oprah. Do you think Oprah will come on the podcast one day? {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: You know Cassy, let me tell you. Here’s what we’re going to do. We’re going to go through this 5 step process ,we’re going to get to the bottom of the why first, then we’re going to lay the groundwork, so we’re going to get some mentors, so we need to talk to other people that have interviewed Oprah.

Cassy Joy: Uh-huh.

Charissa Talbot: This is what we’re going to do, we’re going to establish a plan, and then we’re going to do the work. Meaning we’re just going to start emailing everybody we can and you know, we’ll get it done. {laughs}

Cassy Joy: We will. I love that. Ok.

Charissa Talbot: Done. Put it on the list, we’re going to get there. Ok, so number 4, I love this by the way. Go ugly early!

Cassy Joy: Yes. So, one of my lifelong mentors for really my entire life up until last year when he passed away, his name is Tom Sheehan. This was his hallmark piece of advice. Tom inspired so many entrepreneurs, and really successful people. There were two things that he always said; if you’ve got a hot idea, stay close to a heat source. Meaning surround yourself with people who are going to be like, yeah, that’s a hot idea! And two, go ugly early. If you guys log onto my blog; we’ll link to it in this podcast. My very first blog post on FedandFit.com a whopping 5 years ago, the title of that blog post was Go Ugly Early.

I wanted to publish my blog about a year before I actually did it. I was doing the research, I was doing my homework, but at the end of the day I had this big elaborate vision for my blog, and I wasn’t there yet. I spent a year doing the work and trying to get my ducks all lined up, and at the end of the day, I hadn’t been through this whole process enough, and we’ll talk about that in a second, to really get to the point where my blog was going to look the way I wanted it to look. And Tom sat me down, and he was like, Cassy, just do it!

Charissa Talbot: {laughs}

Cassy Joy: Press publish, just go. It’s going to be ugly, it’s not exactly what you want, but you will never get there if you don’t do this and start learning from your mistakes.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: So remember that your first attempt is not going to be as beautiful or as refined as your 100th. But you have to start somewhere. Also, important to know, there are no new ideas. Ok? Gary Vaynerchuk is another business guy that I follow; listen to his podcast if you guys like really crude business coaches. He’s just really straight to the point. But one of his things that he says all the time is, ideas are (blank), S-H, you know, whatever.

Charissa Talbot: {laughs}

Cassy Joy: I don’t want to curse on the podcast because we’ve done a good job about not doing it yet.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: Ideas are (blank), execution is everything.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: Right?

Charissa Talbot: That’s true.

Cassy Joy: Your idea is nothing. It is like nothing, there’s no such thing as a new idea. Whatever your thinking of, someone’s already thought of it.

Charissa Talbot: Yep.

Cassy Joy: Someone is already out there doing it, and they’re working on it. Where you can differentiate yourself is in how you execute. And you’re not going to get good at execution until you get out there and you start experimenting. So go ugly early. Get your foot out there first, you will learn quicker from your mistakes from publishing than you ever will from hoarding all your pieces and trying to make things perfect before you reveal them.

Charissa Talbot: And, a piece of advice that I’ve given people in the past who have contacted me about, maybe they want to start a blog or whatever. It’s like, you can go, just put it out, and it’s going to be your low hanging fruit, and that’s ok, because you’ve got to start somewhere. You can just improve on it, and improve on it, and eventually it’s going to be that top quality that you want. But if you don’t start, someone else is going to start. It’s like, just get it out there.

Cassy Joy: Yeah. And I don’t want you to feel like you're in a rat race, ok.

Charissa Talbot: No.

Cassy Joy: Because that’s not fun. While ideas are crap and execution is everything, remember that a part of execution and a part of your end product is going to be you, and how you do it.

Charissa Talbot: Yep. Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: Charissa and I are not the only healthy podcast out there that talk about food, fitness, and mindset. We’re not the only one out there, but how we do it is different. Nobody else is out there with our exact voices and our exact perspectives.

Charissa Talbot: Right.

Cassy Joy: So remember that, don’t let the rat race intimidate you. Just get out there and start working.

Charissa Talbot: Right. Ok, so.

Cassy Joy: Yes, lastly.

Charissa Talbot: Lastly, number 5. Regroup, refine, and re-execute. I think you have become the queen of this through your Fed and Fit project, because I’ve seen you from the idea in your head to now, and I’m like, I’m so excited for everyone else to finally see all this. Because it’s like, everything that’s in your brain is now coming into reality, and it’s so exciting!

Cassy Joy: {laughs} It is exciting. You know, you guys, I can sit here and I can write blog posts all day long, I can prepare for podcasts all day long, because I really enjoy creating content, but at the end of the day, how am I helping people? Right, that’s my big why. I am going to be able to help more people by putting it into a program, just like Charissa said. And I was terrified to do it, and if it hadn’t been for Mary to really push me, I don’t know that I would have made a schedule.

So it’s important. I went ugly early. I did my first one on Facebook, and now we have an even better format on course beyond, but you need to stay nimble and ask for feedback as much as possible when you publish something. So that means sending out surveys; asking readers, listeners, viewers, and customers for their feedback. We do that all the time on this podcast, you guys.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: Remember all the times that we’re asking you, give us some feedback. Write a review in iTunes. Leave a comment post on the blog, or on social media.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: That is us working in this 5th step. We’re asking for your feedback so we can continue to do a better job. And then don’t take offense, and treasure every time someone has taken the time to provide you with their perspective. That is so valuable. If you guys do not enjoy what I’m doing, or you think I could be doing something better. We can buckle up, we are big girls, and we are excited to have that feedback. And that doesn’t mean that you have to use all the feedback you get, but it at least allows you with another vantage point on what it is that you're doing. So check your pride, and be ready to make some changes.

Charissa Talbot: Mm-hmm.

Cassy Joy: And then lastly, prepare yourself to go again. Re-execute. You’ll get better and better at this process before long, and you’ll really be realizing that you’re in that continuous process of bringing ideas to reality. I am constantly reassessing my why. I am constantly laying the groundwork, doing more research, interviewing more people. I am doing the work constantly; that’s probably where I spend the majority of my time. I am constantly launching things before I feel ready, you know that’s the go ugly early, and then I’m constantly asking for feedback.

Charissa Talbot: Yep.

Cassy Joy: And you can do this, that’s what we said at the very beginning of this episode, everybody. The people who in your mind right now, you’re thinking are the most successful and they’re doing an awesome job at whatever it is, I guarantee you they’re working in this process constantly. So just jump in, jump in it! You can start it today. Start thinking about your why, and once you really get that, jump into the next piece. Anyways, those are the 5 steps.

Charissa Talbot: And, I know our listeners have lots of feedback on this topic, because this is something that we all talk about a lot. So please comment, any suggestions or ideas or whatever has helped you get to where you are right now so it can help others. We would love to hear what’s your 5 steps? How did you get where you are? Because we can all help each other by providing feedback on this topic.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, totally. And you know, at the end of the day, you do you.

Charissa Talbot: yeah.

Cassy Joy: If you disagree with something here, that’s no problem.

Charissa Talbot: That’s totally fine.

Cassy Joy: This is just kind of what works for us. And this was the most benign advice we could give. There’s a whole lot more to the process, and we could give really specific coaching on different things, but this is pretty much it. At the end of the day, group hug, you guys, whatever it is that you’re dreaming of and whatever idea you have, whether it already feels doable or whether it feels like a completely insurmountable task, like there’s no way, there’s no way I’m going to be able to do that! Wherever you are on the spectrum, we’re just here to tell you that you can do it. You can do it, and there’s a way to do it.

Follow these steps; we’ll outline this in the show notes, so if you’re listening in your car right now or while you're washing the dishes, know that you can go to the website and you can find these. But just to quickly recap; number 1, get to the bottom of why before how; number 2 lay the groundwork; number 3 do the work, so take action; number 4 go ugly early, and number 5, regroup, refine, and re-execute.

Charissa Talbot: Love it. Let’s pop in, because we haven’t done a Fed and Fit segment in a little bit, so I think we should squeeze one in there, and if you’ve hung out with us that long, you can hang out for another couple of minutes. {laughs}

Cassy Joy: {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: So, Cassy, what do you have on deck for a Fed segment this week.

Cassy Joy: Well, first of all I want to say thank you guys for listening so long.

Charissa Talbot: Yes. We were like, we can do this topic in 30 minutes! No, it just never happens. I think we should just realize that we are just kind of an hour long podcast, as much as we try to make this 30 minutes. {laughs} It never works.

Cassy Joy: {laughs} We’re staying nimble, right.

Charissa Talbot: Right.

Cassy Joy: We’re taking our own advice. We’re staying nimble, and we’re going to reassess and re-execute as we go.

Charissa Talbot: Redefine, redefine.

Cassy Joy: Yeah.

Charissa Talbot: Ok, so.

Cassy Joy: Ok, so Fed. So I just want to quickly go over what’s in season now.

Charissa Talbot: I love this!

Cassy Joy: You go to the grocery store, the farmer’s market, and you’re wandering around. You might be wondering, you’ve always probably heard that seasonal fruits and vegetables are the healthiest options out there, right, because where you are in the world, whatever is available to you and available for harvest at that point in time is you’re kind of eating the way nature intended you to eat, and it’s a really sustainable model.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: I won’t go too far into it, but.

Charissa Talbot: And, if we have any overseas listeners, we’re talking about summer, the summer season.

Cassy Joy: Sorry, yes. We’re talking about summer season, exactly. And if you’re listening further down the road, we’re in the middle of June, just so you know.

Charissa Talbot: Yes.

Cassy Joy: Ok, so what’s in season right now, for the summer babies in June? Well in the world of fruits we’ve got cherries, are in season, so if you see cherries, the reason why they’re on sale, especially organic and especially delicious right now because they’re in season.

Charissa Talbot: I’m on my second bag from Whole Foods. Oh my gosh, they’re so good.

Cassy Joy: {laughs} Yum. Peaches, peaches are in season. If you are in Texas or Georgia, we really pride ourselves on our peaches. We just planted two peach trees, by the way, Charissa.

Charissa Talbot: Oooh.

Cassy Joy: Yeah, I’m thinking we’re going to name them Merle and Meryl. {laughing}

Charissa Talbot: Oh my gosh. You guys are too cute. Killing me.

Cassy Joy: I’m just a crazy person. Ok, summer squash is in season right now, obviously. Avocados, cucumbers, beets, and strawberries. And a couple of other berries, but that’s what’s going on right now. This is also a great time, you guys, to buy fruit in bulk. If you do go to the farmer’s market, or you’re at the grocery store and you’re like, holy moly! I’ve never seen cherries, organic cherries so affordable! Now is the time to buy 5 bags of them, take them home, pit the cherries, clean them, wash them, stick them in a bag and stick them in your freezer. This is the time to do that.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah.

Cassy Joy: So you’ve got these in season picked at the height of their season fruits and vegetables ready for the future.

Charissa Talbot: Or you can just do like I’ve done this week and eat too many cherries.

Cassy Joy: {laughs} That’s an option too.

Charissa Talbot: It’s fine. All that other stuff is too much work! {laughs} She overdose on cherries, that’s what happened to poor Charissa. Ok, so summer time, being that we’re talking about what’s in season now, for the Fit segment, I just want to remind you guys, wherever you are, look for local free outdoor workouts. This is the time of year. Maybe you already have a gym membership you're paying for, that’s fine. Or maybe you don’t, but everywhere there are local yoga classes and boot camp classes and different fun, free outdoor activities that you can find within your community. You know, they’re out there. And it’s a great way to get outside, get that vitamin D, meet new people, and have fun. So be on the lookout for those in your local park.

Maybe you’re just out for a walk one day, and you happen to see a trainer working with 2 people. That might be a free boot camp class; go over and talk to them. Hey, what are you guys doing?

Cassy Joy: {laughs} Or I think of Bridesmaids, have y’all seen the movie Bridesmaids? Where they go to the park and there’s a guy that’s actually leading a boot camp, and they’re just following it behind a tree? {laughing}

Charissa Talbot: Right, so that they don’t have to pay for it? Yeah. It’s so hilarious.

Cassy Joy: We’re not suggesting that necessarily, but that’s definitely what came to mind.

Charissa Talbot: Yeah. It’s just a great time of year to take advantage of that and to supplement your workouts, or maybe if you’re on a tight budget it’s a great time to find free workout classes. So definitely check those out in your local community, because you can find them anywhere.

Another thing, when I was a personal trainer, I actually had, I think there were 3 girls that approached me and they were like, we’d really like to do something just with our friends, but this is our budget, this is what we’re looking to do, what can we do? And I put together a special class for them that actually ended up being good money for me, and it was affordable for them. So maybe you’re in the gym and you notice a trainer that you really like, maybe get a couple of friends together and approach them and see if they’re able to do something outside of the gym for you. I mean, there are so many ways you can get creative with getting training, so don’t be afraid to ask.

Cassy Joy: Awesome. Cool! Well, I think that just about wraps it up. We gave you guys another action packed podcast.

Charissa Talbot: {laughs}

Cassy Joy: If you made it all the way to the end, thank you so much!

Charissa Talbot: Congratulations.

Cassy Joy: Congratulations!

Charissa Talbot: You’ve won a high five and a hug.

Cassy Joy: {laughs} We really appreciate your support, as always. Please, as we said before, keep us posted on your feedback. What it is that you’re enjoying? What is it that you’re not enjoying? Are you ok with the 50-minute plus podcasts, or do you guys really want us to keep it under 30? We are nimble and we will take your feedback.

Charissa Talbot: Yes.

Cassy Joy: Please leave us an iTunes review! You guys, that helps us a lot because, the more reviews you leave, the more our podcast is made available to other folks who might be able to find what we’re putting out there useful. So it just makes us more apparent in some search engines. That’s the reason that’s valuable.

Charissa Talbot: And let us all know if you’re on Periscope, let us know your name so we can follow you, and let us know if you’d be interested in us doing a couple of live Fed and Fit podcasts on Periscope, that would be fun.

Cassy Joy: Yeah. That would be fun.

Charissa Talbot: Maybe a live Periscope Q&A recorded podcast.

Cassy Joy: Yep, that’s an option.

Charissa Talbot: Very exciting.

Cassy Joy: There are so many possibilities.

Charissa Talbot: So many, oh my gosh, I’m over the moon about Periscope and the business applications, you have no idea. My brain will not stop.

Cassy Joy: {laughs}

Charissa Talbot: It’s really fun. Ok, cool!

Cassy Joy: Thank you guys! Thanks again for listening, and you guys have a wonderful week, we’ll talk to you soon.

Charissa Talbot: Bye everybody.


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